Just a brief note. Carl Kinbar wrote an email to me last week which I posted as “Carl Kinbar on Gentiles, Torah, and History.” I then proceeded to incorrectly interpret one of Carl’s points and caused some confusion.
Carl does not believe that majority Gentile congregations need to leave the movement and become churches. He spoke in his article about majority Gentile congregations coming to grips with their identity, not as a Jewish congregation, but a mixed or predominantly Gentile one. What he had in mind was not their leaving the movement, but thinking about issues such as liturgy. There are parts of liturgy, such as the Aleinu, which assume those praying are Jews to whom Torah was given. Carl was suggesting that the ways Jewish distinctive practices are handled should be considered.
I regret that I misinterpreted Carl. I am going back to change my response to Carl to reflect my better understanding. Incidentally, it took a while for this confusion to come to the fore because Carl has been out of town and was unaware of my misreading.