Monthly Archives: May 2007

Leah on Gentiles in MJ

When I read Leah’s comments I felt they deserved to be posted as more than just a comment. Leah has an amazing knowledge of Orthodox interpretation and halakhah. She is very young, grew up in Modern Orthodox Judaism, and retains … Continue reading

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My Weekend Experience with PMJ

“PMJ is dangerous,” we have been warned by a variety of people, including Michael Brown. For those who have not followed the discussion or who are unaware, PMJ stands for Post-Missionary Messianic Judaism. It is the title of a book, … Continue reading

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Sabbath Meditation, Children, Generations, Blessings

In the 2006 movie, “Children of Men,” the world is infertile. At a certain point, women stopped becoming pregnant. The youngest person in the world is eighteen. There are no children on the playgrounds. There are no school buses to … Continue reading

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Gentiles in MJ: Summary and Response to Carl Kinbar

I started a conversation about Gentiles in the Messianic Jewish movement. I stated from the beginning that I accept the binary ecclesiology found in the writings of Mark Kinzer. That is, I believe it was the intention from the beginning … Continue reading

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Carl Kinbar on Gentiles and Torah and History

Yesterday I posted a long paper as a tentative position on Gentiles in the Messianic Jewish movement. I wrote as a Gentile, very sympathetic to Gentile involvement in MJ, and as a Gentile seeking conversion, very sympathetic to Jewish concerns … Continue reading

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Warning: This is a Long Post on Gentiles in MJ

Since my professor, Rabbi Dr. Stuart Dauermann, is reading this blog, I do hope I don’t get into trouble for posting a school assigment on the blog. I wrote this paper as one-fifth of my final exam for Messianic Jewish … Continue reading

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Rich Robinson on PMJ, Pt 3

Here is Rich Robinson’s final posting on Mark Kinzer Post-Missionary Messianic Judaism. If you’ve been following the blog for the last few weeks, you know that I largely support the ideas in Dr. Kinzer’s book. Rich Robinson largely disagrees with … Continue reading

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Sabbath Meditation, Musings on the Tongue

Our Shabbat table cloth is laid. A friend in the congregation bought it for us. It is a designer table cloth and probably cost hundreds of dollars. It is more than we would have dared spend. But love calls for … Continue reading

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With Apologies and What I Have Learned

Well, first I need to apologize to anyone who was following with great interest the discussion of the last day and a half. I deleted two articles and all comments. I did this after a phone call with the main … Continue reading

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A Recommended Read on Our Witness to Jewish People

My friend and someone I regard as a mentor, Rabbi Stuart Dauermann, has just posted an article on an overlooked aspect of witness to Jewish people, whether it comes from a Messianic Jewish context or a Christian context. I highly … Continue reading

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The Eternal Torah: A Response to Rich Robinson

I would like to thank Rich Robinson for his article explaining why he and many others in the Jewish missions community do not embrace Torah-observance. Rich’s article was thoughtful and I appreciate his relatively high view of Torah (for a … Continue reading

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Rich Robinson on PMJ, Pt 2

I am letting some scholars who disagree with Mark Kinzer’s Post-Missionary Messianic Judaism write a few articles on the blog. Rich Robinson here offers a respectful view of the role of Torah that differs with mine. I do think Rich … Continue reading

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Michael Brown’s Response

I invited Dr. Brown to post a rebuttal to my rebuttal of his paper. You will find it here quoted in full. I will respond tomorrow. Dr. Michael Brown I appreciate Derek’s invitation to submit a rebuttal to his response … Continue reading

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Rich Robinson on PMJ, Part 1

This week, and this week only, I am going to feature a few blogs by friends who disagree with me. Rich Robinson works for Jews for Jesus and is a genius. He just happens to be wrong about a few … Continue reading

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Sabbath Meditation, A Teacher to Lift Us Up

The Sabbath is drawing near and we are cleaning and decorating for guests. I hope as you exhale the pressures of your workweek and inhale the sweetness of Shabbat that all the stress and anxiety goes out with the stale … Continue reading

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Why I am Passionate about PMJ

Well, we have had a heated debate here about Mark Kinzer’s Post-Missionary Messianic Judaism. I have made some strong statements. Others have made some strong statements. I think I have learned some things from my elders (Dr. Brown, Rich) about … Continue reading

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Rabbinic Tradition and Yeshua

I wrote a paper over a year ago and delivered it at the LCJE. The following is a brief excerpt. It was actually part of an appendix to the paper. I post it to begin a dialogue with Rich Robinson, … Continue reading

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Michael Brown and Post-Missionary Messianic Judaism

I promise, I will blog about other things. I was enjoying some posts of a more inspirational nature before this debate started. See “Sabbath Meditation, Picking You Up Off the Floor” and “The Rabbi and the Businessman,” for example. I … Continue reading

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What is Post-Missionary Messianic Judaism?

I’m not going to say anything angry in this post. I am going to state positively what Post-Missionary Messianic Judaism is. I will not quote Dr. Mark Kinzer’s book and some will say I am not interpreting him correctly. Well, … Continue reading

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A Retraction

Well, I sometimes rush in with emotion and I usually regret at least a little of what I say when I do that. So, naturally, I need to retract one of my statements. In the first post in this thread, … Continue reading

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Michael Brown and Mark Kinzer, Part 2

Dr. Michael Brown responded to my heated post denouncing his review of Dr. Mark Kinzer’s Post-Missionary Messianic Judaism. Please read Dr. Brown’s comment under the first post, “Michael Brown, Mark Kinzer, Judaism, and Yeshua.” Let me summarize a few of … Continue reading

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The Rabbi and the Businessman

This is a short story I wrote to use as a sermon. I don’t, as a rule, put sermons on the blog. But I thought since this one was a story, you might enjoy it. The Rabbi and the Businessman … Continue reading

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Michael Brown, Mark Kinzer, Judaism and Yeshua

I have just become aware of a paper delivered by Michael Brown at the Lausanne Consultation on Jewish Evangelism, a meeting held in North America this April in San Antonio, Texas (lcje.net). I am angry. I would love it if … Continue reading

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Sabbath Meditation, Picking You Up Off the Floor

Shalom all, Shabbat is approaching. If you are Jewish or Torah-observant, I hope your table is lovely and your family or your guests are ready to meet with God at the dinner table. For my Christian friends who do not … Continue reading

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